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JLK
Joined: 17 Apr 2002 Posts: 4024 Location: East Coast USA
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Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 6:57 pm Post subject: Peak Denial |
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A recent National Geographic article by Brian Handwerk touts Italian oil executive Leonardo Maugeri's new book The Age of Oil: The Mythology, History, and Future of the World's Most Controversial Resource, in which the author expresses the cornucopian view that much of the world is still largely unexplored for oil and there are plenty of new oilfields waiting to be discovered.
I'm not an oil industry insider, but I think there is plenty of freely available evidence that Maugeri's book is at best irrationally optimistic and at worst intentionally deceptive. Consider these facts:
1. Multinational oil giants have been investing billions of dollars in recent years for nonconventional deep sea and polar exploration. Producing oil from such environments is much more expensive (and therefore less profitable) than is conventional production. If these companies believed that significant conventional oil deposits are yet to be discovered, it would be in their best economic interests to find them and produce it rather than to rely on nonconventional sources.
2. Similarly, the industry would not be expected to invest as it has been doing in additional production capacity for heavy oils and syncrude if there was a belief that large conventional deposits of light sweet crude oil are yet to be discovered.
3. Cornucopians like Maugeri and Daniel Yergin predict that consumption of refined products such as gasoline in the United States is destined to increase significantly in the decades to come as it has in the past. However, even at today's consumption levels there is a shortage in current refining capacity, particularly in the US. Why has there been little to no investment or proposed investment in additional refining capacity by commercial energy interests? The apparent answer is that those in the industry know that it would be an unwise investment because the volume of crude oil that will be available in the future for refining is not going to increase substantially.
4. Perhaps the most telling evidence that Peak Oil may be fast approaching is the US invasion and occupation of Iraq, which was obviously justified on false pretenses, and US efforts to gain influence in energy rich Central Asia.
Why do people like Maugeri and Yergin spread obvious falsehoods? If the public at large became convinced that a long term energy shortage was imminent it would change their economic behavior. The debt leveraged world economy, which requires at least nominal economic growth to be sustained in order to avoid collapse, would be threatened. Industries and entire economies would be expected to. This will no doubt eventually happen anyway, but our corporate and political leaders would like it put off for as long as possible while their own contingency plans are put into place. _________________ A person hears only what they understand.
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johnwilkins
Joined: 15 Apr 2002 Posts: 4858 Location: West Coast
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Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 1:13 am Post subject: |
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| JLK wrote: | | Why has there been little to no investment or proposed investment in additional refining capacity by commercial energy interests? The apparent answer is that those in the industry know that it would be an unwise investment because the volume of crude oil that will be available in the future for refining is not going to increase substantially. |
And why are energy companies embracing the global warming rubbish? It's more like we've reached peak oil in the North Sea, not elsewhere. Haven't you noticed what has happened to the crack spread? Fewer refineries means higher demand for gas isn't met, leading to gasoline shortages and higher prices. Meanwhile, crude oil is in plentiful supply leaving the oil companies with record profits, while the people who hate the oil companies campaign for exactly the global warming policies that fatten oil company margins. Kill me with compliments... _________________ "A designer knows he has achieved perfection not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away."
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Legros
Joined: 07 Aug 2004 Posts: 396 Location: France
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Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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| johnwilkins wrote: | | It's more like we've reached peak oil in the North Sea, not elsewhere. |
US oil production peaked in 1970. As an American living in the USA and interested in geostrategic issues you certainly know this. _________________ Ne révèle jamais de secrets, car il n'est personne, qui, avec le temps, ne puisse devenir ton ennemi.
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johnwilkins
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Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 4:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Legros wrote: | | US oil production peaked in 1970. As an American living in the USA and interested in geostrategic issues you certainly know this. |
And as you know, there are plenty of reasons for this.
1.) No new refineries in the U.S. since the 70's. The existing ones are easier to maintain with light sweet crude. Why produce heavy sour crude when you can import light sweet? Heavy sour must be steam heated and pumped, and it must be heated to get it to flow through the pipes at the refinery, and the tar sludge it produces--while wonderful for asphalt--takes a toll on refinery equipment. If we could build refineries here, I'm sure the situation would be quite different.
2.) Environmentalists have opposed further drilling in Alaska, offshore in California, offshore in Gulf, etc. Generally East Texas fields were pretty well tapped during WWII, and Pennsylvania is pretty well tapped too. That hardly means we couldn't produce more oil. We're still the third greatest producer of crude oil behind Russia and Saudi Arabia. That's not too shabby a position.
3.) The deal cut with the Saudi's in the '70s is a pretty heavy incentive to import. The Saudis recycle petrodollars to the U.S. and the U.S. provides them with excellent engineering and defense services.
Iraq has light sweet crude at 400psi at the well head. Any guesses why the oil companies of the world want Iraqi production now? Heavy sour crude and syncrude can be processed, but it's more expensive to extract and refine. _________________ "A designer knows he has achieved perfection not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away."
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JLK
Joined: 17 Apr 2002 Posts: 4024 Location: East Coast USA
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Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 5:04 pm Post subject: |
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^ Not very strong arguments. Oil production in the continental US did not decline because of insufficient refining capacity. The US does not have significant deposits of heavy oil, but it is (mostly through Valero and Citgo) refining a lot of heavy oil that is imported mostly from Venezuela. Also, a lot of the Gulf of Mexico production is heavy crude, refined in the USA. If Big Oil wanted more US refineries they would quickly be built.
Oil production in the US peaked in 1971. Alaskan North Slope production beginning in the late 70s helped to slow the slide in production, but (like the North Sea) Alaskan production itself peaked several years ago and now is declining quickly. Offshore production has also helped to slow the slide, but the shallow water sites are plateauing and now we are drilling in deepwater, which is very expensive to produce. We wouldn't be going there if there was easier oil to recover on land. _________________ A person hears only what they understand.
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johnwilkins
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Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Oil production in the US peaked in 1971. Alaskan North Slope production beginning in the late 70s helped to slow the slide in production, but (like the North Sea) Alaskan production itself peaked several years ago and now is declining quickly. Offshore production has also helped to slow the slide, but the shallow water sites are plateauing and now we are drilling in deepwater, which is very expensive to produce. We wouldn't be going there if there was easier oil to recover on land. |
ANWR is easy to recover, and would probably cut our imports significantly. _________________ "A designer knows he has achieved perfection not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away."
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JLK
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Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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^ U.S. Department of Interior estimates range from 9 to 16 billion barrels of recoverable oil in ANWR, a drop in the bucket, and not even confirmed yet. _________________ A person hears only what they understand.
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